Passion Particulars: Who To Blame?

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2004

Assorted Scholarship and Comments on the Crucifixion in and Around The Passion of the Christ

Blame (Or Praise?)

According to Christianity we are born into Original Sin: all of us, no exceptions. note

It seems to this once-upon-a-time Christian that the Jews define their sins via the Talmud; Christians reject the Talmud, leaving sin to everyone’s imagination: like the Bogeyman.

And, according to Christianity, there’s no way anyone can be saved except through faith in Jesus.

Therefore, if we are to blame the Jews for crucifying Jesus, for not defending him once the Jewish court (King Herod) and the Jewish church (the Temple with its Sanhedrin), and, if we can be saved only because Jesus got crucified, shouldn’t we owe the Jews all the thanks and all the money in the world, because without that particular crucifixion (one among thousands: everyday business to the Romans) we wouldn’t be saved? Maybe we should thank the Romans too.

The form of execution used — crucifixion —
establishes that Jesus was condemned as a violator of Roman, not Jewish, law.

Trial of Jesus


This of course is right in line with pk’s perennial jibe that maybe Woody Allen and Mel Brooks, etc. should owe Hitler a royalty on their pain and angst jokes. The Jews have long had pain and angst, but Hitler’s Third Reich really gave them pain and angst: therefore …

Similarly, what kind of career would McCarthy or Nixon have had without Marx, Lenin, Stalin …? Shouldn’t Stalin or Mao have gotten a nice Valentine from such every year?

Well, they’re all dead now; but the principle holds. Shouldn’t Qadafi be getting some nice Valentines?

I bet the first one will arrive soon after the Five Tribes start getting praise and royalties from Uncle Sam for the nice democracy they invented which we then borrowed.

Wait: there’s another parallel there: a few more. Without the Jews, what God would the Christians have? Odin? Wotan? Has it ever been worked out to the satisfaction of all (including the God) (or gods) just how the Christians came by their God in the first place?

The Jews have claimed God since the first mists of history: but it’s not at all clear to me that they didn’t steal him in the first place: possibly before they ever even met the Canaanites: possibly from some other people they overran: some miserable mountain group with a blood god.


The Gibson movie has Jesus say that he takes the responsibility for getting crucified onto himself. Clearly though the sense of blame is in no way diluted. Scorsese’s film of Kazantzakis’s The Last Temptation of Christ (See my Holy Week Notes.)
is clear that Jesus comes to insist on getting crucified. If God is determined that we kill him, how are we to prevent it?

Still: did we have to be so ugly about it?

Hey, you wanna see some familiar politicos laughing at your expense?

2012 05 14 Hey, look at the link below! from a Sanhedrin rabbi!

My son looked, and offered me a correction: I wrote above that in Christianity there were no exceptions to original sin; well, in Christianity there are two exceptions to original sin. Jesus and his mother Mary. Shame on me for succumbing to the culture’s usual muddleheadedness on rules and exceptions and logic.

Passion group, menu

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About pk

Seems to me that some modicum of honesty is requisite to intelligence. If we look in the mirror and see not kleptocrats but Christians, we’re still in the same old trouble.
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